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Qs about being religious thread

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In real life lately, I have had a lot of good questions from non-Christians (Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc) about being Christian and our beliefs. If anyone has questions, feel free to ask them here. I am open to respectful discussions on this matter here or in PM. I am a Christian, but I have soul searched on this topic a lot over the years..

almost 8 years

elephantasm says


groundhogday says


elephantasm says

okay, whatever.


mad


i find mt01's ideas a bit disturbing, personally.


Much like a lot of other ideas founded by Christians. All of them, in fact.
almost 8 years

numb says


groundhogday says


numb says

i was raised christian and i was religious until i was 15 and then i realized that if there is a god, then he's a cruel ba$tard and i can be good and gay on my own without needing heaven as an incentive


are you though?


ya


saying that shows pride. you're actively committing the worst sin. the virtues of christianity aren't the same as your virtues. that's fine, but don't act like everyone's playing on the same field and that "you can be just as good as them" while being lots smarter and independenter
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groundhogday says


elephantasm says

okay, whatever.


mad


i find mt01's ideas a bit disturbing, personally.
almost 8 years

groundhogday says


numb says

i was raised christian and i was religious until i was 15 and then i realized that if there is a god, then he's a cruel ba$tard and i can be good and gay on my own without needing heaven as an incentive


are you though?


ya
almost 8 years
i have complete faith in this thing i cant undersand
almost 8 years

numb says

i was raised christian and i was religious until i was 15 and then i realized that if there is a god, then he's a cruel ba$tard and i can be good and gay on my own without needing heaven as an incentive


are you though?
almost 8 years
i was raised christian and i was religious until i was 15 and then i realized that if there is a god, then he's a cruel ba$tard and i can be good and gay on my own without needing heaven as an incentive
almost 8 years

elephantasm says

okay, whatever.


mad
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okay well it's your right to believe what you want
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elephantasm says


fairyprincess69 says

I can only say that God can and will bring out of the sufferings of this life a good that so overshadows them that this life will be seen in retrospect to have been worth it


and why can you say this, other than because you were taught to think that way and because it's a comfortable thing to say?


i know and feel both in my heart and my mind the Lord would never allow such suffering if it wasn't for a good reason, and while i may never comprehend the unfathomable depth and complexity of God, I can trust in Him that all shall be revealed when He arises; we are simply not read for it yet.

I was not born a Christian, but instead converted after thinking through these things and came to my own conclusions.
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elephantasm says

hey mt01, riddle me some of this:

if god created us and jesus died for our sins, why can't people be perfect enough to maybe not kill and torture each other? why does the world work the way it does? why do so many bad things happen to so many people? what's the purpose of that, and why does he need to use such unfair tragedies and give innocent people such rotten lots in life to accomplish his "purpose"? why isn't everyone born knowing this stuff if it's so magical and spiritual?

........

why should what you "feel" be any more valid than what anyone else feels? Why does god sometimes take a notion to steer you out of harm's way over all the people constantly being left to suffer through awful things with no justice in life except that, according to you, they're going to heaven along with their murderers afterwards and there's a grand purpose they can't fathom?

why are you so perfectly confident in all these obviously contradictory beliefs when you have no actual reason that makes any sense whatsoever?


There is a lot of questions here that I do not have time to really address now, but i will briefly. For part one, look at the story of adam and eve. They were tempted by the devil and as a punishment God made us all sinners. This is why we all sin. He does help us stop sinning some when you get the spirit.

My version of Christianity is from my experience and guidance of the holy spirit in me from this. I struggled with the existence of a god for a long time. Eventually I saw what he did in my life and literally by the holy spirit I know that its the truth. Nothing else can change you this way
almost 8 years
say what u will about christianity, but at least we're not screwing goats. s/o to rome.
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fairyprincess69 says

I can only say that God can and will bring out of the sufferings of this life a good that so overshadows them that this life will be seen in retrospect to have been worth it


and why can you say this, other than because you were taught to think that way and because it's a comfortable thing to say?
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anyways I need to go to bed and I am not sure how much I can be on tomorrow. Hopefully some other Christians can take over. I as surprised by this thread taking off so well. If you have questions that you really want me to answer, private message me here.
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S T O C K H O L M S Y N D R O M E
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somethingwhatever says

god gives me cancer, but he loves me so much!!!!!


that's right! i trust that whatever hardships i face, including cancer not only for myself but for my family and future children, will be overshadowed by the glory He will reveal in us, at whatever point that may be.
almost 8 years

mt01 says


numb says

what if i dont want to be a better person? maybe i like being a garbage human. also, are u implying he will make me straight


he will change you into a better person even if you do not want that if you really find him.

We believe in God and his eartly form Jesus that died for us. There is also a 3rd form of God called the holy spirit that come to live in you when you find God. This spirit transforms you into a new person. People will even say how much you changed. In addition to changing your character, it comforts you and gives you inner peace that I do not think you can find any where else


this sounds like being possessed, like horror movie style
almost 8 years
bush was a born again
bush did 9/11
dont be like bush
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hey mt01, riddle me some of this:

if god created us and jesus died for our sins, why can't people be perfect enough to maybe not kill and torture each other? why does the world work the way it does? why do so many bad things happen to so many people? what's the purpose of that, and why does he need to use such unfair tragedies and give innocent people such rotten lots in life to accomplish his "purpose"? why isn't everyone born knowing this stuff if it's so magical and spiritual?

if you "don't listen to what other people tell you" then where did you get your version of christianity and jesus and "being gay is something you should try to avoid because god says so even though this makes no sense" -- the last of which I'm pretty sure you implied earlier -- in the first place? Did you make it up all on your own, with no help or influence from the rest of society whatsoever?

why should what you "feel" be any more valid than what anyone else feels? Why does god sometimes take a notion to steer you out of harm's way over all the people constantly being left to suffer through awful things with no justice in life except that, according to you, they're going to heaven along with their murderers afterwards and there's a grand purpose they can't fathom?

why are you so perfectly confident in all these obviously contradictory beliefs when you have no actual reason that makes any sense whatsoever?
almost 8 years
god is into some kinky sh1t, is heaven the ultimate aftercare?
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numb says

what if i dont want to be a better person? maybe i like being a garbage human. also, are u implying he will make me straight


he will change you into a better person even if you do not want that if you really find him.

We believe in God and his eartly form Jesus that died for us. There is also a 3rd form of God called the holy spirit that come to live in you when you find God. This spirit transforms you into a new person. People will even say how much you changed. In addition to changing your character, it comforts you and gives you inner peace that I do not think you can find any where else
almost 8 years
god gives me cancer, but he loves me so much!!!!!
almost 8 years
god tortures for sadism but thats ok cause he gives u pleasure afterwards, this is some beaten stockholm syndrome sh1t
almost 8 years
where did god come from
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elephantasm says



the mother of a child who was killed in a school shooting

or someone who was born into a country where they're constantly stricken by famine.

Wonder what fun those jewish people are having up there with hitler because he "thought he was doing the right thing" and "no one can be perfect"


I can only say that God can and will bring out of the sufferings of this life a good that so overshadows them that this life will be seen in retrospect to have been worth it