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In real life lately, I have had a lot of good questions from non-Christians (Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc) about being Christian and our beliefs. If anyone has questions, feel free to ask them here. I am open to respectful discussions on this matter here or in PM. I am a Christian, but I have soul searched on this topic a lot over the years..

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mindful says

mfw idaho parents pray for their child with life-threatening illness and they dont want to give the medical treatment

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so dude I am from Idaho actually originally, and people go to the *ing doctor. Idaho is mostly Mormon and not Christian too...
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groundhogday says


mindful says

mt01 did you know that women cant speak in the church?

the new testament: “…the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:34-35


so why do women speak in church


because they dont know their religion
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Honestly how valuable is your atheism to you? I bet that is actually a lot of religion throughout history. "Well hey this stuff is clearly nonsense but this chick is really hot and she makes the time melt away so whatever, oogly oogly oogly boo magic skyman on sundays"
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Bonus: God telling his men that it's okay to ra*e the women they capture:

Deuteronomy 20:14
"Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you.
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mt01 says

Why were you born into the place you were born vs like India or the middle east? I personally think God picks where exactly to put you. He knows where is best for everyone. He has a plan for everyone, and this requires them to be in a certain spot. He still makes it possible for you to find him no matter where you were born



If God knows exactly where to put you, He must dislike most of humanity by default, right? Because even though it is technically possible for someone who is of another religion to convert to Christianity, the chances are VERY, VERY low. You're telling me that the majority of people are placed on this earth in a place where they will have almost no chance of finding God because that is God's plan?

Also, I'm specifically referring to the genocides in the Bible. Here:

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and as*" (Samuel 15: 2-3).

"16 But uin the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, 17 but vyou shall devote them to complete destruction,1 the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, as the Lord your God has commanded," (Deuteronomy 20:16–17).

In these cases, God specifically commands His people to commit genocide.
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I'd totally pretend to convert to any religion and bury all of my individual values so deep they never surface again for a pretty girl with a sad story and wide eyes
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Whitepimp007 says

No, I didn't exactly grow out of it. Our society absolutely does punish apostasy. We may not stone people, but atheists are looked down upon by our society more than any other group of people. When your spouse is religious and you come out as non-religious, that might lead to a divorce. If your parents are religious, and you come out as non-religious, you might literally be thrown out of the house or disowned. Some religions EXPLICITLY teach and practice this. Other religions merely encourage it. There is no taboo for being an atheist? Lol
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if you pretend to believe in God for your spouse you probably deserve the divorce. hardly anyone gets disowned for converting and it probably happens for dumber reasons than that. you don't have it bad, stop pretending your society isn't already secular
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UltraAug says


Whitepimp007 says

The religious discourage rational, critical thought. They treat other groups like second class citizens because their religion instructs it...


this made me laugh


that is because you are a sheep
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mindful says

mt01 did you know that women cant speak in the church?

the new testament: “…the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:34-35


so why do women speak in church
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mindful says

mt01 did you know that women cant speak in the church?

the new testament: “…the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:34-35


this is a plus point for christianity if anything
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ALLAHU AKBAR
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Dag says

yeah swan, you say this cus u dont know the true power of allah


nah u just want more than 1 hoe
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yeah swan, you say this cus u dont know the true power of allah
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mt01 did you know that women cant speak in the church?

the new testament: “…the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:34-35
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mfw idaho parents pray for their child with life-threatening illness and they dont want to give the medical treatment

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Becomeclear says

How absolutely self centered and arrogant. I guess it describes you perfectly though


Called it @ the 2nd page boys
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mt01 says


Whitepimp007 says

The religious discourage rational, critical thought. They treat other groups like second class citizens because their religion instructs it. They cause children to grow up in fear of eternal damnation. They discourage seeking help for mental health problems due to ignorance. They teach abstinence-only sexual education. They censor speech, art, books, music, films, poetry, songs, and sometimes thought that they disagree with.


I will not go into all of this, but I have a few points. Real Christians do not just follow a church leader. They follow God. There is thinking involved with this. I am a scientist even, so I am a thinker and God can use this.

We are taught as Christians to love everyone. We are not supposed to judge anyone, including those of other faiths. We are only to love them and show them God in our lives. People are human though and do not always do this. This is not acceptable by God though.

Politically i am on the left and I disagree with most things you said. There should be things like health care for the mentally ill. Some people use religious arguments for stupid things, but this is not in agreement with God. I have tried to refute people at times even using the Bible and it never goes anywhere. they can't even find support in the Bible for their beliefs.

People are human, and you can't change this sadly...


wtf is a real christian? are there fake christians???
how do you decide??
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I'm sorry if I misunderstood there was just TOO MUCH TEXT for my little brain to read
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did Gentleman imply in previous posts that letting a child grow his beliefs on his own is crueller than teaching a child that theres a magical man, in the sky, watching his every move and if he is BAD he will go to hell?
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Thanks whitepimp, good points.

I have no problem with religion, as long as people do not try to restrict my life because of what THEY believe. What they believe is not necessarily what I believe.

I think gay marriage should be allowed and that birth control abortions should be available. There are religious people who share these views. That's all fine.

There are also religious people who think it's against their faith to have gay marriage, birth control and abortions, and still want them available for others. That's all fine.

There are however also religious people that feel their personal beliefs should be the guideline about how OTHERS live their lifes. They are against gay marriage, against the availability of birth control and abortions, they feel people should not do anything on sunday, they think women should not be allowed to work, et cetera et cetera.

I have a problem with this. Because then people are trying to pressure THEIR beliefs unto me.

Do not touch my freedom of choice. Thank you.
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GentIeman says

I don't get the reasoning of atheist wanting everyone to be atheist. Just let people feel warm and cuddly at night. Not everyone likes the concept of nihilism.


Are you referring to me?
First of all, I'm agnostic - don't assume. Although I don't believe (!) in any of the monotheistic religions myself, I also acknowledge the idea that there are some things we, humans, might not ever find a conclusive answer to and that therefore my beliefs can turn out to be (partially) false. That aside, I see no reason to believe in any of the worlds' monotheistic religions.

Second of all - I don't 'want' everyone to be an atheist, but someone is opening a thread here in which she offers to answer questions about faith and I'm taking that opportunity to ask some questions.

Third of all, I don't see atheists going from door to door, from church to church and from mosque to mosque trying to convince people to 'stop believing', on the other hand I've met plenty of christians who feel it's their duty to try to convince me that their way is best because 'I wouldn't want you to go to hell, Lady'.